Forum: Writing Mary Sue: the Mother of Challenges

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Curufin

I would dearly love to see a Curufin/OFC romance.

He's perhaps the nastiest of the Feanorian sons. In HoME he's the only one of the sons who helps his father burn the ships - and his baby brother while he's at it. He and Celegorm are the most destructive towards Luthien and Beren, and Finrod and Orodreth's kingdom. And yet, Celebrimbor seems like a relatively decent person, who has enough moral fiber to renounce his father and his evil deeds. Which makes me very much want to know who his mother was.

She's had brief appearences in other fics - particularly Ithilwen's and Shauna's - but I've never seen her at the center of her own story. I'd very much like to know what sort of woman would want to marry Curufin, what sort of courtship and marriage they had, and what sort of relationship she had with her son.

I suppose this technically isn't a Mary-sue, since barring MPREG Curufin's wife must have existed, but I think there's lots of room here for taking a strong female character and running with it. In an early Silmarillion draft Tolkien says she remained in Valinor, but that isn't mentioned in later drafts, so there might be room to have her do the classic Mary-sue thing of jumping in where all the action is. She could swear the Feanorian oath along with her husband, take part in the kinslaying or not, take part in the burning of the ships or try to stop it, and do something or other in the Beren and Luthien story.

It's got to be the Silmarillion counterpart of having a woman join the Fellowship - having a woman Feanorian.

Anyone interested?

Deborah

 

 

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The challenge texts allows for very minor canonical females to be used, so I think this would be within the parameters of the challenge.

So... are you going to write it?

 

 

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I don't know about the Oath taking I think that's a bit sacrilegious, actually. Then again, this is a Mary Sue challenge, and I am the same person who nearly wrote a 10th Walker fic, so I can't talk...

However, I think it would be interesting to see a Curufin romance- I have been grappling with an idea for a story with Curufin as a supporting character- not a romance involving him though- and I want to see what others make of Feanor's favourite son and his family.

Curufin has always struck me to be one of the most myserious and interesting characters, because he of all his brothers resembles his father the most, in looks and mind. It makes for interesting family dynamics, doesn't it?

 

 

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>The challenge texts allows for very minor canonical females to be >used, so I think this would be within the parameters of the challenge.

>So... are you going to write it?

Hm, I was kind of hoping someone else would.

Deborah

 

 

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So... are you going to write it?

Hm, I was kind of hoping someone else would.


I'm sure we'll be able to convince someone to do it. Dwim has a knack for inflicting plot bunnies on people.

 

 

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Well, Deborah, I do have plans to expand Curufin's wife's role in my next few tales (although you already know how that's going to turn out, so it's not quite what you're after here). Perhaps, when I've gotten to know her a bit better, I'll be able to go back and fill in some backstory about how she met Curufin and fell in love with him. Can't make any promises, though - these darn Eldar do what they please, and I don't know if she'll be in the mood to talk to me.

I would also like to see other people's takes on Curufin's wife and their marriage. It DOES seem puzzling that Celebrimbor turns out the way he does, knowing what we know about his father, so her influence must have been important. Unless someone else stepped into Celebrimbor's life and filled the emotional role of "mother" for him after he was separated from his true mother after the Exile - and that would also be a nice Mary Sue role, I'd think.

 

 

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A Mary Sue for Celebrimbor do you mean? The poor Elf seems to be forever besotten by either Galadriel or Annatar in fandom, perhaps a dose of a nice Mary-Sue will liven things up, even furthermore explain the expelling of Curufin?

Just imagine the angst it could have, from the POV who's actually concerned with him(no offence to Galadriel-in-Eregion writers out there).

We can have a tale of revenge, love, suspence, drama...or if one feels really lazy..copy the reaction from Spartacus in Garibaldi's friend's novel(whose name I have sadly forgotten, NOT Howard Fast) as they see the body of Celebrimbor as Sauron's banner..

Anyone willing?

-Furius, who thinks Celebrimbor/OC romance and Aldarion/OC romance are actually canonically supported.

 

 

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Alright, I give up, this nuzgul is biting too hard. Expect a story soon. And it will be Mary-sue as a Mary-sue can be.
But, Ithilwen, you'd better write yours too.


Deborah

 

 

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So long as it isn't a parody, go for it. Mua ha ha....

 

 

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Oh no, I'm honestly going to put a guy who falls in love with a girl because he sees her dance and thinks she's beautiful into a serious story. And a woman who swears the oath of Feanor and somehow can rebel against it. And if all that doesn't add up to a Mary-sue, I don't know what does. Well, we'll see if I can pull it off. The first few pages are already written ,and it'd be a shame to waste them.

Deborah

 

 

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Can I say how glad I am that the nuzgul bit you and not me? ;-)

Good luck!

 

 

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Well, Curufin has now been Mary Sue-d. It's in beta and in the challenges section.

I tried not just to write an OFC, but to use some typical Mary Sue elements - first person narration, love at first sight, putting my OFC in the center of the action and having her, in the end, be able to do something the canon character can't do. It's certainly been an interesting experiment, and I'm curious to hear what y'all think.

Deborah

 

 

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